Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 16:28:03 -0000
From: "Tom Odom" tlo@net1inc.net
Subject: Gate Attack!!
Seems there is always something new going on around here.
Got home yesterday afternoon and found a six foot gate missing from where it
should have been. This is a pipe frame gate with Hog type panel on
it. Well I noticed that my 19 month old buck was not hanging around
with the other bucks. I got to looking for the missing buck and found
him and the gate out in the pasture fighting. This was one mad buck.
He had been pushing on this gate and scratching his head when this
gate attacked him and would not let him go. Had a horn caught in the
gate. He was stomping around in the pasture snorting and fussing. He
and the gate had torn up a good portion of fence, turned over a 28
gallon water trough, tore up two buck stalls and was now coming back
in where the other bucks were, looking for some help from them. They
took one look at him and that gate he was fighting with and headed
for the other pasture. He has never had such respect from the other
bucks before. What a sight it was, him flailing this gate around
making sounds I've never heard from a buck before. As I stood there
looking at all this I became aware of the problem I was going to have
stopping this fight. I really did need to separate the two of them.
Feed bucket was going to be of no use here. I don't even think a good
herd dog would have any good ideas on this. This buck was beyond
reasoning with. He was Mad. He was making another pass through the
buck stalls when he got that gate fouled in the close quarters. I
made for the stall with chain in hand and secured the gate to a 10"
post, got the bolt cutters and freed the buck from the offending
gate.
Gate beyond repair.
Buck OK.
Wonder what today will bring.
Tom Odom
"Boer Goats of Southern Alabama",
http://users.net1inc.net/tlo
Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 11:52:34 -0700 (PDT)
From: c reynolds csreynolds01@yahoo.com
Subject: Keep your gate, Tom
Keep your gate, Tom. I'll stick to the simple bucket
attacks my goats get into. Now, I'd wished you never
told me about gate attacks. I've got enough to worry
about without adding gates to the predator list for my
goats.
Connie Reynolds - Autumn Farm
Ravenswood, WV
Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 19:48:43 -0000
From: "Tom Odom" tlo@net1inc.net
Subject: Re: Keep your gate, Tom
Yeah, I know. I can handle buckets OK. I have, as many others have,
had times of removing goats heads from a gates, this was totally new.
First time I've had a buck running out across a field with a gate
attached to his head.
Time permitting today, I'll try to bribe Suds, with a beer or two,
into filling me in on anything I might have missed out on before I
got there yesterday. Knowing Suds as I do, he will embellish and
exaggerate the events some just to drag it out and get more beer. I
would probably get a more factual account of the events by talking to
the girls about it but Suds has a better flare for telling funning
stories. He's one of those that gets carried away with what he is
telling and gets to laughing so that he can hardly finish the story.
I have to watch Suds. If he gets serious about something, he's
trying to pull something on me. Like one time he was feigning a sore
foot and not feeling good. Had me put him in a pen away from the
other bucks. Had not had him in that pen for an hour when he managed
get in with a particular doe that I had cut out for another buck
and "POW", yes Suds thinks he is a Herd sire now. Should have
pictures of some little Suds before long.
Tom Odom
"Boer Goats of Southern Alabama",
http://users.net1inc.net/tlo
Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 15:58:26 -0500
From: "Carol A. Sharpe" sharwa@cora.net
Subject: Re: Re: Keep your gate, Tom
Tom wrote:
Should have pictures of some little Suds before long.
(would they be called) Bubbles????
Carol A. Sharpe
Sharwa Farm
Beef Cattle, Nubian and Boer Goats
and a host of other Critters
Fayetteville TN.
(south central TN)
Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 20:30:54 -0700 (PDT)
From: Lenette kigervixen@webtv.net
Subject: Gates
Tom,
I hope you culled that bad tempered gate. Sure wouldn't want to keep an
aggressive gate around, especially if you are doing any line breeding.
You could end up with a whole farm full of nasty gates.
I should know, as we have kept a few nasty buckets and such that we
should have culled long ago, and they seem to pass that trait on to
their offspring. Every so often one gets surly and attacks a goat or
horse around here, especially kids and foals - the adult animals seem
more able to defend themselves. Obviously, with your gates you need to
be especially cautious if they are attacking adult bucks!
Lenette
Genesis Equines
Not-B-Haven Nubians
Prineville, Oregon